Now once you have a form as we all have – as everything has that we recognize in name; everything that has a form has a name – the form makes you individual. And the form also makes you separate. When you have somebody you love you kind of unite for a moment. When you make love with a loving person for a bit longer you can become, it seems, one. But just momentarily. But in the place where it all comes from – in that space that has no form – there is no separation whatsoever. If there is no form, there is no shape, and if there is no shape there is no beginning and end; no ‘that’s where I finish and that’s where beyond me starts.’ You get into the formless and all separation disappears. But is it possible for somebody, like you and me who have substantial bodies, to join the formless – the space where everything is one?